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Interviewer: So when did you realize that Spike was more than just a villain?
Joss Whedon: Pretty much when James Marsters auditioned for it. Spike was, you know... Spike was somebody that I loved conceptually, and then James just brought and then kept on bringing. So it was a pretty gradual process, but it was always happening.
Interviewer: A unique transition in that character from just a villain to almost the typical anti-hero. And yet never completely there.


Joss Whedon: As a villain he was... you know, the Master that we started with was a straight-up villain, like, his belief system was just evil. And what was fun about Spike was, I said, okay, that's great and Mark Metcalf did a wonderful job, but now we need a villain that we can relate to in the way that we're relating to our other people, so that thematically they can become useful. So to introduce this guy who is clearly "oh, I'm such a badass" and then have him very tenderly in love with another vampire... from the very beginning the idea was, well, he's not just a cardboard. He's gonna have levels to play. How many I didn't at the time realize, but in a way, he really didn't change that much. He's a character that I always liked a little bit more than Angel, because...
Interviewer: He's got more of an edge.


Joss Whedon: He was more evolved, though. He had more of an edge, but at the same time, you know, he chose to have a soul. He learned from his mistakes and he -- Angel was kinda the classic Lestat puffy shirt, you know? And Spike was sort of the new mod rebellion against that, so I like that character. I always, always thought he was a good guy, even when he was a bad guy. (The Write Environment, 2008)

Joss answers what the soul is in the Buffyverse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03m7zmq

Joss Whedon: "For me, the soul is a convenient way of saying, 'Is this person trying to be better. Is this person someone of substance or are they not?' [...] Eventually we stand up to be counted. We either make the world better, we make it worse, or we just sort of make it run in place (which makes it worse). And the idea that we have this thing in ourselves that we cannot define has always fascinated me and I have no problem calling it a soul. It is what makes us human beings and not excellent clocks."

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Comment by Stoney on December 17, 2015 at 2:56pm

I saw this a few days ago but I'm not sure it has made it here yet, top 10 Whedon characters.  Guess who got No.1... :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C46VsJCBdY

Comment by cil domney on November 8, 2015 at 4:26pm

Comment by cil domney on November 8, 2015 at 3:18pm

Looking Back - Spike Special Features

Comment by Stoney on October 12, 2015 at 3:22pm

I'm really looking forward to Puck's review, he often references other stories (film/books/comics) I don't know much about which I find interesting as comparisons that use the same formats/themes etc. 

Comment by cil domney on October 12, 2015 at 3:04pm

I was reading some of the comments - Bangel comments were all in the So True Happy Campers category.  I'm just tired of all the which is the best man/vamp for her and the public conflict that goes on .  

Hoping I can get back to the ReWatch - I had to miss the discussion on this episode due to our schedule with RL art projects right now.  Watching Doomed again after all this time was really good - I noticed a lot more things this time, as I have with all the episodes I have been able to watch.  

Comment by Stoney on October 12, 2015 at 12:54pm

The delivery on that line is just perfect, love it.

I don't think SMG's opinion does matter to most fans tbh.  I think the ones that care and shout out joyously are the ones that agreed with her anyway.  She can have it down as pure character/romance preference but she does have a personal friendship with DB and I just don't believe that (and her preference for the earlier seasons) don't play a part.  Any which way, it is just her opinion and I do think that is how most people take it.  Anyone who feels like Buffy herself just spoke out loud is just slightly craaaazy. :D

Comment by cil domney on October 12, 2015 at 5:51am

In honor of the ReWatch and just because I feeling a bit Bitchy after another round of Bangelitists from the latest SMG twitter - don't know the origins of her latest - but it's on facebook and it's another stir up with the fans.  I just wish that SMG would quit with the personal opinions regarding Angel and Spike and who is best or her choice.  It's different with her comments since she was the friggin star of the series and it has an impact on the fans and it's not a good impact. 

Anyway - here's Spike - I ran across it on the "she made us laugh a lot" article.

http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/10/funniest-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-mome...

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