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After the Fall & Comics 162 Replies

The thread for our latest discussion for the After the Fall series - both Angel and Spike.  We will also include the discussions for the IDW comic books. Continue

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Angel Season 11 40 Replies

I thought Angel should probably have its own S11 thread now.  :)Continue

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Buffy Season 10 - Buffy and Spike Now 23 Replies

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Character Relationships TV Era & Comic Book Seasons. 93 Replies

We can continue with the Character relationships here instead of the general comic book thread.

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Spike "Into the Light" 159 Replies

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Comment by anca on July 3, 2010 at 5:23am
Lulurose, now I'm a bit frightened by the webcomic. What if Spike will choose to rescue/aid Angel instead of Buffy, blaming Buffy for the fallout of the Twilight event? In "Empty places/Touched", Spike was the only one who still supported Buffy, maybe this time (also considering the sad Buffy #37 cover) Joss will want to turn everybody against Buffy!

The tiniest hope is the "Soon" panel - they'll pass any differences and still fighting together on the same side. But the doubt and fear is here.
Comment by Lulurose on July 3, 2010 at 4:27am
When is comes to drawing the characters, I have wondered why some of the cover artists, like Ms. Chen and Mr. Urru, do such fantastic jobs at reproducing the image of the actors, but the artists who are depicting them in the actual comic often don't. Mr. Urru seems to be one who can do both. I think he does a great job of reproducing the images of the actors. He does the best Spike, IMO, and I have seen the current Angel "prequel," The Barbary Coast, and Urru is doing the art for that, and he has totally nailed reproducing an early twentieth century Angel. He has absolutely re-created DB's face-both human and as a vamp. He should probably teach a class in comic art. Ms. Chen only did that little web comic, which was kind of quizzical to me-not her art-but I assumed that JW was really poking fun at the ships, and that was the main message that I perceived, with Buffy floored by the fact that the two guys who she was supposed to be the true love of decided that they only had eyes for each other, and were making out while she married, of all people, Warren. I took it as JW's way of saying that the whole thing was ridiculous, and to lighten up. Which, of course, didn't phase most shipper's one bit, IMO. Whatever Joss's message was, Ms. Chen did a good job on the likenesses, too, although Spike's face wasn't as angular as JM's really is. However, the upcoming Chen "Spike" cover is so realistic that is looks like he'd almost talk to you-I should say fuss at you, as that is what the cover expression would imply, and he certainly is going to have a lot to fuss about in that issue, and we know that Spike doesn't mince words, so to say that cover portrait is expressive of the Spike in the upcoming issue is probably an understatement.
Comment by cil domney on July 3, 2010 at 3:11am
Both the Bill Williams interview and the Lynch were very interesting - always great to learn about the artists and writers and their process -

All I know is that it is friggin difficult to render the human face and that I suck at drawing a good likeness.
Comment by cil domney on July 3, 2010 at 3:06am
Great idea about Spike's Scythe - Totally spaced out on the potential connection that their may now be two scythe's in play -

I suspected that Willow would be involved in the connection with LA from the point that only two characters used a reference to LA, Angel/Twangel and Willow - Andrew has of course knows about Spike and the giant head in Twilight looked very much like Andrew.

It seems like these four characters will somehow ended up being brought together - Willow, Andrew, Buffy and Giles and that Spike will be involved as a Big Change character. Could Spike be the Trickster that will connect to Willow and not only Saga Vesuki?

I would so love for Spike to come out as the really great hero/champion in this -
Comment by Lulurose on July 1, 2010 at 11:32pm
It's nice to read what these guys have to say. I had read the Bill W. thing before, but it was nice to read the ideas of the artist. I have expressed that I thought that he didn't draw Spike very well, but after reading what he has done in his efforts I guess the fellow should be cut some slack, as I do know that it is not easy to do that, and I know that there is a specific style-can"t say that I am crazy about the "anime" type style, but its the current thing right now, so. c'est la vie.

I also have been giving some thought to the whole "comic" thing in general, and it has occured to me that because many of us are so used to Buffy in the tv medium that the comic medium is perhaps somewhat of a "culture" shock. When I think about the grand daddy's of the comic, like Superman and Batman, and how long they have been produced, they-as characters-have gone through so many incarnations, resurrections, etc. We think that Buffy having come back to life twice-although, frankly, I think the first time Buffy what Buffy experienced was a resuscitation more than a resurrection, so, she had officially died, but her body fortunately responded to Xander's efforts, and "rebooted" itself-seems extreme. Spike went through two resurrections, with his turning only being referenced as a flash back on Buffy, and then re-materializing in the first episode of Angel 5. Of course, he went through one more in ATF, as did Angel. So, even if Angel or Spike meet their demise in Buffy 8, in the comic world, that isn't necessarily the end, unless Joss deems it so.

I really liked the Bryan L. interview. He is such an honest guy-I hope he isn't too honest and gets in trouble for telling that Joss has indeed cared about whether the IDW 'verse and his own vision coordinate.
Just reading his litle tid bits, I wonder if Willow, when Buffy came back and Willow realized what the future held, and what her role would be in it, that she somehow facilitated contact with Spike-and it seems that she could only know that through either natural means, as through Andrew, or some supernatural means, maybe through that Saga Vesuki(is that the way its spelled?)and Spike went into the future, and battled the demon forces-which unforunately will include Spider. Maybe the scythe he was using(I was right about it, it wasn't Buffy's (^_^)will be another mystical one, and that is what can be used to stop everything-and anything-Twilight is?

Yes, this Bangel thing is annoying. Didn't one of the guys in one of these interviews, though, state that half of the fan base was Spike oriented-and, that means, to a great degree(although not exclusively)Spuffy oriented
Comment by cil domney on July 1, 2010 at 7:55pm
I still get so pissed off with all these writers thinking that the "fan base" want to see a final Bangel Love Reunion. Where does this keep getting all the justification from regarding the "fan base" - it's total crap that the majority of the fans want a Bangel Love/Soul Mates Reunion and Resolution.

The Bangel Supporters and Devotees must totally rule the big boards or the comic book boards -

If my reading of the fan base is right, some of the fans want to see Spike the warrior poet who gets together with Buffy but not long enough to quash a Buffy and Angel reconciliation.
Comment by cil domney on July 1, 2010 at 7:47pm
Love this answer from Bill Williams regarding Spike:

Buffyfest: What do you think makes Spike such a popular character?

BW: In some ways, Spike is a Rorschach test for fans. Some see Spike as a romantic hero and a poet. Some fans see Spike as a guy who loves to fight. Depending on the story, Spike can fit in anywhere. One of the things that I loved about the character on the television shows was that Spike was fully engaged with his environment. By that I mean, when he was sad, he felt it. Spike is also witty and very funny.

Interview link:
Comment by cil domney on July 1, 2010 at 7:20pm
Great Artwork & Inks from "emperios" of Spike and TDYK Don't think that you have to join to view but not sure -
Comment by cil domney on July 1, 2010 at 6:58pm
Comment by cil domney on July 1, 2010 at 3:48pm
Great Preview of October Issue - looks like JW is going to really come through with a great Buffy Emotional Final Arc -

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